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it is like the man in the iron mask if by iron mask you mean latex cat suits. it is not for sale, so return it when you are done. now to tv's andy levy for a pre game report. andy, what is coming up on tonight's show? >> thanks, greg. coming up, warner brothers announces that ben affleck will be the next actor to play batman. our allstar panel debates. and reaction to the news that ben affleck will be batman in the man of steel sequel. and finally who will be the next batman? stick around to find out. greg? >> thanks, andy. >> you becha. >> we are doing a lot of other stories besides that one. >> are we? >> we are doing one about how hate crimes at overland
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college was a big hoax. and bradley manning wanting to be called chelsea and addressed as a woman. >> i am not listening, greg. i am thinking about how ben affleck is going to be batman. >> you know what the problem about american men? >> i am the problem. >> no, you are not. >> i am batman. >> go away, wierdo. she is so hot that she call her volcano. oh my god there is a spilbore. shoot the spilbore. and if thoughtful commentary was i would put my stuff in him. >> and he once accepted a blood transfusion from a rs ho. it is bill schulz. and if comedic ingene yens was an inheritance i would blow him at the craps tables. nick depaulo.
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he will be performing at side splitters. that's a comedy club in tampa and september 14th at the shubert theater in boston. >> a block. the lede. that's the first story. ps, i kidnapped your dog. >> nice to know. their hate was fake. the bigotry, bogus tree. one of two overland students responsible foraysist messages on campus -- for racist messages on campus are friends of president obama and the campaign was a nasty hoax. earlier this year the spate of racist, anti-jewish and anti-gay graffiti called to canceled classes and hold teachers and ins focused on racism and homo phobia. it drew national attention and the hysteria culminated with the report of a person
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supposedly wearing kkkgarb and it wasn't nick. the daily caller reports that one of the perpetrators was the founder of his high school's obama club. he was a member of the college democrats. the police report states that he and his cohort left hateful displays just as a joke or a troll. the revelation has been largely ignored by the mainstream media or as i like to coin. it the lame stream media. >> that was pretty good. >> i came up with that. in march they were on the hate crimes like a bulldog on a pink dog. >> see, that actually -- that video works because the dot is
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a metaphor for the perpetrated het crimes and the dog is nothing more than the media who loves to chase them. once the dot goes off, the dog just stops racing and doesn't even wonder why. michael, i don't even think we need to discuss this story. when these hate crimes break, reported everywhere, you are a journalist. once a journalist finds out it is bs, they let it go. why don't the journalists follow-up on this stuff? >> i don't. i have written stories about bs hate crimes. you know, they are all so invested and report as if it is real without doing any sort of actual reporting of their own. they want them to be real. you shouldn't want racism to be true. you shouldn't want more of it. it feels like that to these people. on campus you have kids who are are -- racism is everywhere and there is race card, gender and it is not there. they have to create it. >> that's interesting. the teachers are probably okay because if you don't have evidence of what they are talking about, then they are pretty much unnecessary if
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this world does not exist. >> this is the most toxic charge in american life, hands down. it has the lowest standard of evidence. it is exactly backwards. if you are accusing someone of racism, you better have some serious evidence. >> i expect that from a swede. aren't they all the same? >> my last name is moynahan. i am irish. >> irish need not apply. get out of here. >> how did he get on this table, bill? >> go drink your whisky and eat your potato and be gone with you. nick, the excuse for the students will be to raise awareness of racism because that's what they say when they get busted. it doesn't really matter if it didn't happen because it always happens. >> it is doing the opposite. it is backfiring.
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it proves that white racism is almost dead. they have to create these situations. you don't see conservatives doing the opposite, right? they don't have to. it exists. >> that's an interesting point. >> it is like the crook that owns the glass store and he breaks the windows at the high school. >> i forgot about that story. >> then they can go buy the windows from the glass store. >> of course that's why. >> i just wanted to make sure. we have some slow viewers. metaphors can be too complex for bill. bill, when a hoaxer is found out, they are usually put into therapy because people somehow feel sorry for the hoaxer. they don't go to jail and they don't get punished. doesn't that make it more i don't know more inviting to do this if you know you will not get punished? >> if nothing bad will happen? one of these kids they kicked out of school. >> is that so bad that they get to hang around at clubs and break glass? >> you don't get your student
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loans funds. do they treat it a little lightly? >> they treat it lightly when it happens by college kids. we had a couple of college kids breaking into e-mails and college kids pretending to be an elected official. they get board and it is somehow funny and we don't want to ruin the rest of their lives so we slap them on the wrist. >> can't we ruin their lives? >> we should ruin their lives, but we don't. >> i tried in my college era to ruin my own life. there were no cameras so i got off scott free for all of my hoaxes that i perpetrated against myself as a matter of fact. i once painted myself pink. bill, the student describes himself on twitter which is a social network. >> also a noise a bird makes, but continue. >> he describes himself as an atheist slash pacifist, slash libertarian and socialist.
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you would be described as a stupid jerk, slash nothing by me. thoughts? >> did you do that on twitter? they will take that as the truth. i would say this is a hoax and should be reported on. i don't know what that means and if it means racism is nonexistent. it is almost nonexistent. >> nick is still around. >> nick is holding up -- >> he is fighting the good fight. >> they were all part of the problem. >> just the other day colorado state senator tells a poverty reduction task force that the reason that black people have been so poor for so long is due to their dependancy on fried chicken. >> what does it have to do with this? >> this is just saying that while there are hoaxes out there , there are examples of real racism all over the place. >> that's the argument the defenders of the hoax use. it is not a good arangement because a hoax is a hoax. by the way, he brought up
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fried chicken because she was talking about how diet affects certain specific ethnic groups and they have different diets. >> you don't want to defend that way. >> no, i don't want to defend. i do love southern foods. >> i wouldn't say it is clumsy as much as dumly. >> i will take dumly. >> we are not buying chicken anyway. it is a moot po nie t. >> what did did you say? oh moot. >> bill's argument is the argument they use when they are caught. >> i was arguing the point that racism is almost nonexistent. she was brought to the table and would bring a lot of things we would have to bleep. >> anytime racism comes up it is assumed white. it is a two-way streets and we are starting to see that now. does it make you nervous that people are just now catching on in the mainstream media? >> i think we are finally having the brave conversation that eric holder was talking about. he was talking about america is afraid of talking about race. now we are talking about it,
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and it is becoming a two-way street. >> it only took two or three or four dead white people. >> the brave conversation we have yet to get to which is ben affleck. ya or yay? >> that's b block. don't jump ahead. the last time you jumped ahead you know what happened. >> i fell into a sewer. >> that is true. and then you didn't bathe for a week. sphie from games to -- from games to names they pay no mind to his crime and will frown on a pronoun. some media are focusing on what to call bradley manning. not why he is going to jail, but how he should be called. new york magazine posted a story titled, why is it so hard to call chelsea manning she? scolding other outlets for denying her request to use the feminine pronoun. i still think he looks great there. outlets like usa today, a paper, reported that, quote, he intends to live out the remainder of his life as a woman. the writer wonders why is it so hard for people to type an
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extra s when they write about manning? we up -- updated our -- how do you say that? >> nomenclature. >> thank you. the i had yow sin craw sees are more compelling that are than a human's self-professed gender. but she not a woman yet. you know who else is rejecting his prison sentence? >> i hope that dog is all right. >> me too. >> we will make a phone call during the show and find out if that dog was free. you are filming your poor dog trapped in a fence. i hope no one sent that to --
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>> that happened at a little league. >> we would rather talk about what to call manning. does that show us how super official we all are, "red eye" included for talking about it? >> it is such a nonissue what pronoun we will use to describe him or her. the bigger issue -- and your show changed my life today. when i was researching it, i am mad that taxpayers are going to pay for somebody to have a sex change operation in prison. i am mad about that. >> have they agreed to that? >> wait. in 2012 a federal court said yes we do have to pay for that. when i was doing that research is where i changed my mind. the reason why prisons have to pay for that kind of surgery is because people in that situation if they don't get the surgery they tend to become suicidal. i don't know if we want people killing themselves for this kind of -- >> well if i am paying for them -- >> as legitimate as that
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argument may be, anyone can use it if i want surgery for something because it makes me less suicidal. do you have to create a pam to decide how suicidal you are before you agree to it? i don't know, michael. would it be a bigger story is why she is in prison? >> wow, you made a decision. >> i made a decision right there. >> was that upstairs? >> it came to my mind right now. >> that was bold of you and very daring. look, the manning story has got a lot of attention. it is being talked about. this is a stupid effort to inject some sort of like, you know, pc politics into it. i feel bad for him on this front. i don't feel bad he is going to prison. whether it is a he or she there is not a lot of pc sent -- sentiment. technically it is a he.
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i know somebody -- like i know a guy who comes to the show and he is black and doesn't refer to himself as such. >> if you describe that in the paper it is a self-identification thing. if you say so and so african-american, that would be accurate. right now he is a man and that is accurate. if he has the operation you can call he a her. >> nick, i tried to follow that. it was very nuancey. >> it did make sense, but you are a bunch of dopes. >> i think what you are saying is it is interesting when people bring up science about certain things. but then refuse science in the moment as it is actually -- that's not what you said? >> i want to go back to the dope point. >> i admire you as a paragon of sensitivity and i pray i won't have to spend hours editing your response. >> look, a guy is going to prison and he wants to be
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referred to as a she. i am not seeing the problem here. you know, this is an easy one. first of all, you don't get to demand anything. >> i think that is what gets me upset is why -- >> why is he calling the shots? >> why is he calling the shots? he will be called [bleep] for the next 30 years, right? >> i don't know. if it is a rude prison. >> some are very rude. >> i would not condone name calling in prison. >> it, it will be in jail for a longtime. it can get me some cheese its at the commisary. >> who cares what he wants to be called. >> i think she, it -- i am not calling -- shush. you are right, calling the shots shots is not where she should be. she should be unconfused much
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like any people in america. we talk about this because it is better than sitting in silence awkwardly. >> i like how you use the word "we." it adds a level to it. with regards to the coverage you have your columns that spout opinions and they have column space and they will hem and haw about what the title is. you can report on both. articles are not 140 characters. you can talk about how he whistle blew and this is what he said. and then you get to the peculiar part. this is peculiar. this is not your normal julian assange stuff. this is weird stuff. i can give you that title. this is odd. >> i don't know. you seem like you have a deeper knowledge and we are all dopes. >> i don't think that is in dispute. >> most whistle-blowers have difficulty in their personal lives. >> not always.
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how many people are in the military currently serving? >> 16 million. >> that is absolutely right. i think it is 17 million. >> and how many people released 800,000 cables? i think there are probably more people that maybe have gender identity issues that didn't do this. >> good point. >> he said in the beginning i did this and in his chances with assange he said i did this because i want this to be known. i want america to stop acting like this. in the court he brought this stuff up. is it relevant? i don't know. he said he was doing this for whistle blowing purposes and now this came in because i am confused. >> he wanted to be known and he is now. >> i often feel that all this is about attention seeking. he was a whistle-blower who wants whistles blown at him. >> that's right. he wanted to be on broadway. >> i didn't know what that means either. >> it was once close to [bleep]. >> that's terrible. >> you are getting filthy.
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have i to wrap this up, but to me -- to the media it is a bigger affront defending the guilty sensibilities than the fact he put our troops in danger. that's what bugs me. i don't call if you call him a he or she, he is a traitor. she is a traitor. that's all i care about. i am only pointing out the media is at fault and should be impeached. impeach the media. coming up, the head of the international monetary fund has warned central bank not to end their stimulus measure too soon. there will be a 12-minute rant on this. >> i wasn't paying attention. >> who is the new batman and why serve upset? how should i know? i have a life for god sakes.
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they are putting up a fight over "the dark knight" this week warner brothers -- they are not really brothers. it is a company. they announced ben affleck will play batman in the see -- sequel of "man of steel." within hours 30 petitions were started demanding the studio bounce ben and tweets about the casting were negative. why all of the whining? one person said you have the shadow of christian bale and the rough start to affleck's career, the fact that this is a character with 75 years of expectations. for a start, apparent lesomebody hasn't seen "gili" or" reindeer games." news has reached the far east where some have taken to the streets in protest.
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>> oh dear. all right, nick, isn't it pathetic that you get the feeling that these are adult males getting upset over an actor's choice. >> can we put movies out for adults? the nerds running everything? adam west, he is around. >> you can't have affleck. they are not tough on crime. if you are going to use affleck, matt damon would have to be robin. >> that would be great. they would have an unusual relationship. >> i wouldn't see this movie if it was filmed in my kitchen. >> and you have an awesome kitchen. >> they filmed "jaws 4" there. >> it has the block in the middle and the hanging pots. >> i am half french. i like to cook, i was telling my friend here. >> who would you like to see
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as batman, and is it okay if it is me? >> it absolutely would be okay if it is you. you are right. this is a male thing. we women don't care. you took a hot guy and put him in a batman suit and we are happy. every one of you people around this table could play batman and i would buy a ticket jie. what about greg cavo. >> put him in a suit and i will pay. >> it is like a giant spanx. your body contorts and everybody looks great. >> he would be great. >> we are trying to stick to the story. people are more upset over this than some of the foreign policy snafus of the recent past. that is a serious question. >> it was actually a statement. do you want to talk about egypt? >> i am saying we live in a culture where that stuff is less interesting. >> you can be interested in
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both. >> no, no. >> not really. >> i'm sure your guys are following what is happening in syria. >> answer the question. answer the question. i forgot what it was, but answer it. >> you know, i love ben afflec because he is from massachusetts and i am too. but he is french canadian. they are horrible and bad stuff is happening in the world. >> bill, you were dishing for the last superman movie as lois lane. why didn't you get the part? >> how much times do i have to tell you that he likes to joke and fly a little bit. it is a big deal. i don't like the complaining. first of all let's go back to the first batman, michael keaton. what was everybody saying? mr. mom? this sucks. what about the joker with heath ledger. "broke back mountain" he sucks. so if people are upset about ben affleck then maybe this
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will be a good flick. >> people like to do this and then they forget about it and they like to play the strange new respect thing. i didn't like him, but he turned out to be pretty good. >> i like ben affleck. he has done a lot of good work. >> i didn't like "or go." "argo" it exaggerated the role -- >> and the canadians. >> they were ticked off and they had a right to be. >> at the time the canadians got all of the credit. >> tom cruise was cast as the creature. >> rip taylor. >> and he could throw the glitter at the villains. why are we having this conversation? coming up, i'm gonna get mine so you can get yours. i wanna see sweat coming out your pours. what are bloomburg's keys to success? probably something about
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getting up early and working hard.
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